Absolutely, I utterly detest the way applications try to market themselves. The big problem is that many non-technical or not very computer literate users end up sending all sorts of invites they probably don't want to send, because they don't realise they have to actively de-select and skip the process.
The whole invite process should be stopped. What should be improved is the application library, and there should be an 'application' application which allows you to summarise all the apps (you choose) and display a link on your profile, with a review and rating facility. If others were interested they could easily see which apps you use and what you think of them.
Jared Goralnick
· 1 year ago
Thanks for highlighting this, Nick. I see it all the time that my friends don't know how to work with an inflexible UI and they inadvertently invite everyone. It's laudable for Facebook to take such a strong step and be actively involved in verifying which applications have been the most instrusive.
Jonathan Kleiman
· 1 year ago
All of these changes will make everything better in due time. I look forward to the day where only the apps people care to spread will spread
Joe Grossberg
· 1 year ago
"The whole invite process should be stopped."
Yes! Enough with the spam; let them grow organically, via the news feeds, word of mouth, profiles, directories, blogs, etc.
Tom
· 1 year ago
This does nothing to prevent requiring invites in order to use features of an app. All it requires is that the user go to another page when clicking "skip". That page may very well be a message about how friends must be invited.
Leila
· 1 year ago
Nick, as always you are on top of everything and truly "all facebook." The moratorium, if implemented correctly, is very welcome and will help facebook maintain it's image and desired usage by clients - as opposed to turning into a trashy myspace. However, as Tom pointed out - there must not be a way to circumvent the moratorium and the application should be fully functional despite not wanting to SPAM your friends for application usage. Additionally, I would like to see that applications once installed do not redirect you out of facebook to another URL such as all those quizes etc. that send you over to that "love" Web site. I am sure we have all seen it - but the application and Web site name escape me at the moment. You would think that Facebook wouldn't want to see this either.
Marc
· 1 year ago
@Nick Yes, it's a good thing as we commented on yesterdays post that it's about quality not the quantity of apps.
@Tom If an app requires someone to invite friends in order to use features of an app then that is very poor design. An application should stand on it's own merit and have it's own intrinsic value that makes it worthy of a friend invite.
Also, the scenario you outlined is against the terms Nick posted here, there has to be more than just message saying you must invite someone on the page following a skip.
Jason Rubenstein
· 1 year ago
It's a very good thing for the platform, long-term, and much better for general FB user experience.
I disagree that invites should be removed altogether. Users will simply ask for some sort of invitation mechanism for apps they find very engaging. I.e., the demand for an invitation system would arise very quickly. Evidence for this is provided by apps which collect user feedback asking for more invitations per day, and more vectors for evangelism, rather than for fewer.
Have an app that's very engaging, fun, and adds value to the FB experience and the problem of intrusive and inappropriate invites will diminish significantly, perhaps to the point of (statistically speaking) the problem going away.
The current problem with invites is not the invites themselves, or the invitation/request system. The current problem is, and the invites "crisis" is caused by, a tremendous failure of imagination by many application developers.
spanish facebook
· 1 year ago
This decision it’s a very good thing for Facebook and overall for the users!.
We need more things like this one.
Regards,
Erik Giberti
· 1 year ago
Thank God! Now I'll be able to find out what kind of drunk I am without inviting everyone I know. But seriously, this will make the whole Facebook platform experience better for everyone.
I've gotten feedback from some friends who joined FB in November that they're not visiting or using the site regularly due to the overwhelming number of invites to bite, kick, scratch, punch or whatever application the few really offensive developers have been developing. The really small shops who are doing this don't get as far.
The signal to noise ratio has reached a tipping point - and Facebook is finally doing something about it.
Sara Waller
· 1 year ago
hurrah, forced invites are rubbish. as a member of an app development team I cant see any reason why have used this strategy- its not long term thinking and offers the facebooker no value.basically they are greedy. good ridance, bring back ethical business.
Andreas
· 1 year ago
"If an app requires someone to invite friends in order to use features of an app then that is very poor design. An application should stand on it’s own merit and have it’s own intrinsic value that makes it worthy of a friend invite."
Yeah, but it seems like this is the way all new apps works these days. For example all new quiz-apps where you are forced to invite 20-or-so friends to get your results. It have been like this for months, and I am getting really sick of it as I am drowning in those invites. This behaviour of app developers is about the biggest problem with FaceBook right now I would say.
My suggestion: Make it possible for ordinary FaceBook users to report an application as spam or spam-encouraging.
Johanna
· 1 year ago
The decision is a good start, but I cannot see that it will keep apps from withholding results on tests you have spent time answering if you choose that "other option".
In addition apps should be forced to tell of such conditions in advance, preferably it should be included in the app title to prevent the waste of fb members' time. Fair?
All Comments
The whole invite process should be stopped. What should be improved is the application library, and there should be an 'application' application which allows you to summarise all the apps (you choose) and display a link on your profile, with a review and rating facility. If others were interested they could easily see which apps you use and what you think of them.
Yes! Enough with the spam; let them grow organically, via the news feeds, word of mouth, profiles, directories, blogs, etc.
Yes, it's a good thing as we commented on yesterdays post that it's about quality not the quantity of apps.
@Tom
If an app requires someone to invite friends in order to use features of an app then that is very poor design. An application should stand on it's own merit and have it's own intrinsic value that makes it worthy of a friend invite.
Also, the scenario you outlined is against the terms Nick posted here, there has to be more than just message saying you must invite someone on the page following a skip.
I disagree that invites should be removed altogether. Users will simply ask for some sort of invitation mechanism for apps they find very engaging. I.e., the demand for an invitation system would arise very quickly. Evidence for this is provided by apps which collect user feedback asking for more invitations per day, and more vectors for evangelism, rather than for fewer.
Have an app that's very engaging, fun, and adds value to the FB experience and the problem of intrusive and inappropriate invites will diminish significantly, perhaps to the point of (statistically speaking) the problem going away.
The current problem with invites is not the invites themselves, or the invitation/request system. The current problem is, and the invites "crisis" is caused by, a tremendous failure of imagination by many application developers.
We need more things like this one.
Regards,
I've gotten feedback from some friends who joined FB in November that they're not visiting or using the site regularly due to the overwhelming number of invites to bite, kick, scratch, punch or whatever application the few really offensive developers have been developing. The really small shops who are doing this don't get as far.
The signal to noise ratio has reached a tipping point - and Facebook is finally doing something about it.
Yeah, but it seems like this is the way all new apps works these days. For example all new quiz-apps where you are forced to invite 20-or-so friends to get your results. It have been like this for months, and I am getting really sick of it as I am drowning in those invites. This behaviour of app developers is about the biggest problem with FaceBook right now I would say.
My suggestion: Make it possible for ordinary FaceBook users to report an application as spam or spam-encouraging.
In addition apps should be forced to tell of such conditions in advance, preferably it should be included in the app title to prevent the waste of fb members' time. Fair?