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so you have to click one more time to go from info to the wall .. big deal !!
Nick - as you know there is a little link right at the box, that says "Back to the old version".. lets hope FB keeps that there for a while, and doesn't add any new features there!
Let's just get it over with and stop their whining. Eventually they will get used to the new design and see the advantages.
They might have had a slight case if they were paying customers or something.
My only complaint is that there are still bugs around that new site design. Now that's something worth complaining about... if I even cared about Facebook that much to invest time in bawwing. :)
BUT: The new design does have some drawbacks for casual/non-frequent users. If every time someone visits a site there have been changes, it forces them to relearn the interface etc. For those users, these massive changes are more disruptive than for those of us who are on Facebook all day (or at least a good portion of it).
For example, if I had spent any time customizing my left hand navigation so the apps and tools I found most valuable were right there at my mouse tip, when I come back and see the new design, they're gone. Yes, I know they're all still in the applications submenu (or most of them are anyway), it's frustrating for that casual user who hadn't realized there was a new design/layout coming. As hard as it may be to believe - not everyone follows Facebook news as closely as we all do.
And the top nav bar could be a bit taller. But overall I love it.
They've clicked, themselves to try the new facebook - instead of trying it, finding problems and reporting them (it's called CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM) - they make silly little groups "protesting".
I recently posted in one of the mentioned groups above.
"It doesn't matter how many of you sit on this wall and moan - or how many join this group, the new facebook will still be here eventually.
If you are too vein to see that this new version is more modern, better for security and accessibility and aren't even willing to adapt - then that's pretty sad. People will moan when the 'old facebook', is 'out-dated'; yet don't want to take time to understand the new."
I hate it when incompetent people look at a website, piece of software or anything for 5 minutes - and because its entirely different to what they are used to, decide they hate it. People did the same with Vista, because they don't understand it -they don't like it.
I think, I hope, that once people get used to this new system (and they will have to eventually) they will enjoy it and realise the benefits of the 'new Facebook'.
In my opinion, and many others from what I've read - the new design is nice a neat, professional and tidy. It's clean and easy to digest information. People are just complaining because things aren't where they remember them and they don't understand.
Get used to it, it's coming.
The one thing I DO NOT like is that I haven't figured out how to see my wall-to-wall with someone when I visit their profile (unless I've recently commented on their wall). That's the one feature that I use pretty frequently that they seem to have forgotten to include, and for now, I just switch back to the old design when I really want to use it. (Unless maybe I've just missed it somewhere...!)
The other group is clearly new though.
http://forum.developers.facebook.com/viewtopic....
And let's be serious for a minute. These facebook users aren't "protesting" by clicking "Join Group". That hardly requires much effort. Most of them (like many of us) are "guilted" into joining their buddies groups. Remember, the key on Facebook is to be unique as possible while conforming as much as possible. It's the Gen X/Y way. You'd almost have us believe, if we didn't know better, that these 35,000 users (assuming some aren't members of both groups) are out picketing Zuckerburg's house. Of course, we know two things about most of FB's younger users: they are lazy, and picketing requires making a sign. That's tough work for most of them. It requires, like, a day of work, and mad spelling skillz, and, like, it's kinda hot these days, so maybe just click "Join Group" instead. Yeah.
So, save us the click on our RSS feed in the future please (and your own time typing this drivel). When it get's to 1,000,000 "protesters", maybe it will be worth an aside post, but quite frankly, it wouldn't be news until it got to 5 to 10 million.
BTW, I switched to the new profile ahead of time, spent the requisite 15 minutes figuring out what went where. Some people just don't like change. It really isn't a question of whether the new interface is better or not. It really isn't. The people who use Facebook (95% of them) are hardly qualified to make UI decisions. In fact, half of them probably struggled just to sign up in the first place.
Thanks for the "noise" though. Maybe next time you can report on my Facebook group which, so far, has a total of 5 users attempting to limit the size of orders at fast-food drive-thru's. Yes, I feel that if we can double our membership by year end, we will be an unstoppable force that will crush the 20-minute $45 SUV orders at my local Wendy's. Come on, AllFacebook! What's more important? Z-man's new interface or the productivity of America's workers at lunchtime?
Terribly cliche.
I also dislike that you can no longer see which of your friends' friends are in which networks. Furthermore, blending the wall and the minifeed was a bad idea. I hate having to weed through superfluous wall posts just to see what my friends are up to.
Popular people are also sure to dislike the fact that you can no longer tell how many people have posted on your wall (the counter is gone).
Overall, the redesign is a step in the wrong direction. I'm just glad that you can still toggle back and forth between the new and old versions of Facebook. They need to keep this option permanently.
I am sick of this big group: http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21195... hating the amazing new Facebook. It is currently at 149,080 members & growing rapidly everyday. I don't want Facebook to listen to these users because most of them are just idiots who have used it for less than 5 minutes & don't understand the reasons for the new design!
http://tpgblog.com/2008/08/13/facebook-says-focus/
Jeremy Horn
The Product Guy
http://tpgblog.com
I have found myself visiting my friends profiles more often because I don't have to deal with so many installed applications.
Before I'm pegged as a new user, or one that hasn't taken the time to look into and experiment with the newer layout, I have three comments to make:
1. I've been on Facebook since early 2005.
2. I actually followed and suggested feedback (weekly) while the new layout was in development via the Facebook Profiles Preview page. A couple of the changes I suggested (undoubtedly along with many other users who were unhappy with certain aspects of the layout) can to fruition. A couple didn't. And a few things weren't even revealed until the layout was complete and in official beta.
3. As stated, I have submitted feedback to Facebook. This includes after the profile view became available to the public. And yes, I'm part of that Petition Against the "New Facebook" group.
Now, the reasoning as to why I dislike the new layout:
- My main peeve: Junky news feed/wall goop. Personally, I don't care about the news feed. I know many (many) users do, but a lot of those are (for an example, Andrew (see above)) users who don't really care about wall posts they've already replied to/seen. Having these mixed together is... junky. Cluttered. Rather annoying. A solution? Add a button that allows filtering of news and wall posts.
- Suddenly I'm seeing a lot more boxes. "Wait a second," you say, "I think there's less boxes -- look at that wonderful page that houses all those stupid applications and lets everything else... be." Well, I read left to right, and there are a lot of boxes on the left side. Naturally, that's what my eye catches. And guess what I find in the middle where my wall/feed gunk is? More box-shaped segments. The right with advertisments? More boxes. I admit, I like the info page. It looks clean.
- Speaking of the info tab... er, why isn't the info tab the default page? It seems to be the most important. I understand the want for the wall feature to be prominent, but I still think it takes a back seat to actually learning information about the person you're talking to.
- Navigation. Is. Horrid. Even after playing around with it for a couple days, I still felt a little lost and confused. And thus, clicked the fabulous button (which I can only hope will stay) that says 'Back to the Old Facebook.'
- Things that aren't significant but still annoy the heck out of me: The big, light blue bar at the top of the screen looks horrendous with a wide screen laptop. Also, as Andrew mentioned, I really would love for photos that I post to be displayed before photos that I'm tagged. For the mere fact that it keeps it more personal.
Although I realized minds will probably not be swayed (and that Facebook has a (made up statistic of) 99.9% chance of not returning to the previous layout), I hope these few paragraphs provide a little insight as to what the uproar is for a small section of Facebook's population. Most of us are not stupid user. Most of us have not been coerced into joining these anti-new layout groups. Most of us are just discontent with the aesthetic direction Facebook is going and would rather have things differently. Maybe not the OLD layout, exactly, but something in between.
Harith, while it is a free service, Facebook has put a lot of investment into the site. If Facebook starts forcing unwanted changes on its users then they may all start leaving and go to another free service. Even though it is free the customer is always right, that is if Facebook wants to continue to greater and better things that is...
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22078...
people are just afraid of change, and facebook really does need an update.
just give it a few days, you'll learn to like it, and when you go back to the old design, you'll realize how crammed it was.
Screw you, Facebook.
The new facebook is cluttered, disorganized, and strips every user of any ounce of personality on their profile. People like MySpace because it allows them to 'make their own page', the 'new' facebook is just a mashup of what a person is doing/being said about them and used for marketing purposes only. Data collection is the goal of facebook, not user satisfaction.